Fight Night?

iggy's picture
iggy
May 9, 2013 - 4:41pm
I read somewhere that you can build up commanders by having fleet fights between alliance members.  I'd like to test this.  If it works well, then we could do a fight night where we circle some SY and put fleets in the middle to beat on each other.  Do a round robin of who gets to attack who.  when we are depleated of ships the fight night is over and we talk SF.  We could talk SF the whole time and have this go on in the background.
-iggy
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jedion357
May 9, 2013 - 5:59pm
can you attack alliance members?
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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TerlObar
May 9, 2013 - 8:14pm
We can always try.  I'm up for it.
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iggy
May 9, 2013 - 10:38pm
Jedion and I are close to each other with SYs at (686,2610) and (700,2593).  We could test the theory out with a fight.  I thought there was a location with jedion and I closer but I can't find it.  Jedion, where is the SY sitting between two stars?

When do we want to test this?
-iggy

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iggy
May 9, 2013 - 11:54pm
Found the two stars I was thinking about.  Jedion at (849,2573), Me at (858,2549).  Not as close as the other two but an option.  Jedion I have placed a fleet of 50 Swingers, commander 9 star, A/D 10/12 by your (686,2610).  Hit him.
-iggy

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jedion357
May 10, 2013 - 2:07am
I think we should all send SY to the highest value property one of us owns. Most likely and energy property since energy properties are a magnet for people feeling froggie. At most it wont take more than 5-6 days to assemble. I just pulled an SY from holding a crew planet and could redirect it.

In the mean time I'll hit those swingers latter today-cant do it now as I'm off for work.
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iggy
May 10, 2013 - 6:05am
I'm very curious about the results of hitting the swingers first.  Will this even work.
-iggy

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TerlObar
May 10, 2013 - 9:01am
That's Karxan at (849,2573) not Jedi.  I actually don't have anything really close to either locations but could move something over without much difficulty.

As to high value targets, Eric's Omega star at (700,2593) is as high as anything I have.  I have a shipyard <11 hours from there I could fly down (it's up at 687, 2425).

Let me know how the test attack goes.
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iggy
May 10, 2013 - 10:42am
I have several omega stars to offer.  One is even isolated with no one around it.  On a fun note, fighting in the mutari nebulae would be appropriate. 
-iggy

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jedion357
May 10, 2013 - 11:27am
Alright I'll stop that SY in mid flight and send it to eric's omega, meet you at (700,2593) if this works.

Scrounging some ships for the hit.

SY will arrive in 8 days
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jedion357
May 10, 2013 - 11:34am
It asks, "Are you sure you want to conquer and ally?" and you click yes then the attack goes in.

Report: # 1/100 ~ loc: 686, 2609  
5/10   14:35 ~ GST: 05/10 18:35 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
You, on the left, attacked Eric Winsor (Gollwin Academy), your commander got 45 XP
Attackers Tech: Helix Mountings Lv. 15, Side Winder Lv. 16, Cerebral Interface Lv. 13, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Cerebral Interface Lv. 12, Lasers D Lv. 10

Attackers Commander Bonus: +45%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +60%

I think we should build a 1000 ships or more for fight night and use the alliance chat window to talk SF.
45 EXP isn't bad for one fight. I wonder, does the EXP go up for the number of ships in the fight?
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TerlObar
May 10, 2013 - 12:57pm
Shipyard en route.  I'll be off line most of today and tomorrow as my wife and I are going out for our anniversary but after that we can have a go.  I'll build up some ships to duke it out with.
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jedion357
May 10, 2013 - 1:28pm
TerlObar wrote:
Shipyard en route.  I'll be off line most of today and tomorrow as my wife and I are going out for our anniversary but after that we can have a go.  I'll build up some ships to duke it out with.


perhaps we can do this as king of the hill, leave your ships on the "hill" until someone knocks it off
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TerlObar
May 10, 2013 - 2:24pm
That sounds like a good plan to me.  It's probably the easiest way to coordinate it plus it would allow us to keep it up even when we can't all be on-line chatting.

There is an unoccupied star just down to the left from iggy's omega.  We could make that the "hill".
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iggy
May 11, 2013 - 7:31am
I'm good with this.  I see that jedion already has a fleet on the hill.  I'm gonna put my commander Otho1 against him with combat/attack/defense C/A/D 60/12/10 and 200 swingers and see how long I can hold the hill.  I'm hoping that giving my hardest to fight might generate the highest xp for lower xp commanders.

Long term I would like to see us aquire a Lambda Energy like at (700,2625), but not neccessary to be this one.  We could ring it with our SY and RS and turrets and then fight in the middle.  A black hole or other cool feature would work as well.  I like the idea of imagining up epic battles in the heart of a super nova or black hole.
-iggy

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iggy
May 11, 2013 - 7:49am
WOW!  Jedion's meaning to hold this hill.  Lost all my 200.  But got 307 XP.  Smile

I have another 197 coming then I'll have to wait for a big force to build up.  I've been hunting with swingers only and so my inventory is low.  Plus I have those 800 juggernauts depleating my capacity.
-iggy

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TerlObar
May 11, 2013 - 2:10pm
I'm king of the hill!  Smile  Took out Jedi's fleet and got 432 XP.  I assume we want to play it that you don't reinforce whatever fleet takes the star.  Or do we want to allow that?

Getting a lambda energy to fight aournd would be nice.  That one at (700,2625) is right by my factory station.  Wherever we end up setting up shop, it might be a good idea to set up our factories there as well to give us an area to swap components.  I haven't played with that aspect of the game much but maybe if we have a central location anyway, we might give it a go.  That is unless of course, you've all dismantled your factories.
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iggy
May 11, 2013 - 3:18pm
I was thinking the factory thing as well.  I traded with another guy for a few weeks and since then he has not shown up.  That was long ago.  I have a good mix of stuff that I have never used to expidite an upgrade.

I was wondering about not reinforcing too.  I think that would keep the hill changing hands and bee more fun.  That would also free up resources for hunting at the same time.
-iggy

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iggy
May 11, 2013 - 9:11pm
I think the old 80's song about being king for a day is what I shall listen to.  Tomorrow is Mother's day and I'd give up this kingship to be with my wife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYJK75Yw0RM


-iggy

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jedion357
May 12, 2013 - 2:11am
Much more EXP for this sort of thing than raiding zombies
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iggy
May 12, 2013 - 9:30pm
I'm happy with the xp coming from this.  I do not even have to send a fleet I feel will overwhelm and take the hill because if I'm wiped out trying then I still get high xp.  I am going to experement with different ship types.  Next I will send a fleet of turrets and let it be attacked to see how strong my turret instilations could be.  The one thing that is a pain is waiting for all of the ships to build.  I'm at a 1m9s build time for a ship but have not been getting significant improvement to that as I add SYs and upgrade their fleet level.  I have 12 SYs all at least level 13 for fleets.  How fast have any of you been able to get the ship build time too?
-iggy

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TerlObar
May 13, 2013 - 6:15am
I think 1 minute per ship is the asymtotic limit for build speed based on things I saw mentioned in chat.  I have 11 shipyards,(1xlv17, 5xlv15, 4xlv14, 1xlv10) and I too have a 1m 9s build time.  It doesn't get much better than that I guess.
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jedion357
May 13, 2013 - 12:10pm
I have 17 SY and a 1 min 9 sec build time. I'm pretty sure that that is a the limit for improving build time. the good news is that a lot of my SY have low numbers for the fleet vaule and thus if Eric is correct about doing a fast upgrade shorting the repair time I'll be able to shorten the repair time for many of them to less than an hour and for some down to a minute.
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iggy
May 13, 2013 - 6:31pm
The turrets I am sending down now are just staging.  They are not in the fight yet.
-iggy

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TerlObar
May 14, 2013 - 8:35am
I think I'll do a turret fleet next as well to give you guys something to hammer on.  My turrets, like my ships, are all level 25 in attack and defense.
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iggy
May 14, 2013 - 10:01pm
I did not expect my turrets to participate in the battles.  However, I am in the habit of checking defense and so they did when you attacked an alliance member.  Here for your educational pleasure is the string of reports detailing their actions.

321
-321
23
-23
  vs
640
-314
?
Report: # 4/74 ~ loc: 695, 2604  
5/14   3:18 ~ GST: 05/14 09:18 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
You defended the attackers original target, Tom Stephens1. Thomas Verreault (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 580 XP
Attackers Tech: Helix Mountings Lv. 15, Side Winder Lv. 16, Cerebral Interface Lv. 13, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 20, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 20

Attackers Commander Bonus: +50%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +45%

258
-258
  vs
326
-88
?
Report: # 3/74 ~ loc: 695, 2604  
5/14   8:15 ~ GST: 05/14 14:15 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
Thomas Verreault (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 80 XP
Attackers Tech: Cerebral Interface Lv. 13, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 20, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 20

Attackers Commander Bonus: +50%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +45%

130
-130
  vs
238
-44
?
Report: # 2/74 ~ loc: 695, 2604  
5/14   10:44 ~ GST: 05/14 16:44 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
You defended the attackers original target, Tom Stephens1. Thomas Verreault (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 66 XP
Attackers Tech: Cerebral Interface Lv. 13, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 20, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 20

Attackers Commander Bonus: +50%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +45%

482
-152
70
-70
  vs
194
-194
?
Report: # 1/74 ~ loc: 695, 2604  
5/14   21:32 ~ GST: 05/15 03:32 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
You defended the attackers original target, Tom Stephens1. Thomas Verreault (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 270 XP
Attackers Tech: Helix Mountings Lv. 15, Side Winder Lv. 16, Cerebral Interface Lv. 13, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 20, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 20

Attackers Commander Bonus: +50%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +45%



So all in all I earned 996 XP from that venture.  I'm curious, did any of Tom Stephens' ships get attacked or did they just leave as I defended them?
-iggy

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jedion357
May 15, 2013 - 4:17am
some of those attacks were on Tom so the turrets defended them

BTW, I'm building that one admiral up to a 70% commanders bonus then working on another on the premise that the next time there is trouble I'll use him in the smack down so that the other player sees that commander's bonus and perhaps has pause over it being so high.
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TerlObar
May 15, 2013 - 5:33am
I didn't see anything until he finally took out your turrets and killed off my last 33 ships on the star.  Time to take out his ships and put my turret fleet on the star.

I've been building up a lot of captains to 6 stars as that is fairly quick and once I've gotten my 12 commanders to that point am going to start building up my main one to a high level like jedi.
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TerlObar
May 15, 2013 - 5:46am
Oh.  Looks like it was iggy there now and not jedi.  Oh well, I sent too many ships.  That turret fleet has 600 turrets at level 25/25 with a 7 star commander.  Have fun.

I'll post the combat results like iggy did once they are gone so you can see how the various leveled ships do against it.
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iggy
May 15, 2013 - 9:17pm
411
-337
330
-292
  vs
351
-351
?
Report: # 1/75 ~ loc: 692, 2604  
5/15   21:47 ~ GST: 05/16 03:47 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
You, on the left, attacked Tom Stephens1 (Gollwin Academy), your commander got 556 XP
Attackers Tech: Helix Mountings Lv. 15, Side Winder Lv. 15, Cerebral Interface Lv. 12, Lasers D Lv. 10
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 25, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 25

Attackers Commander Bonus: +60%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +50%
-iggy

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TerlObar
May 16, 2013 - 6:31am
Here are the three attacks on my turrets:

256
-256
  vs
600
-72
?
Report: # 11/39 ~ loc: 692, 2604  
5/15   10:20 ~ GST: 05/15 16:20 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
Thomas Verreault (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 143 XP
Attackers Tech: Cerebral Interface Lv. 13, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 25, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 25

Attackers Commander Bonus: +50%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +50%


84
-84
400
-400
  vs
528
-177
?
Report: # 3/39 ~ loc: 692, 2604  
5/15   19:44 ~ GST: 05/16 01:44 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
Thomas Verreault (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 297 XP
Attackers Tech: Helix Mountings Lv. 15, Side Winder Lv. 16, Cerebral Interface Lv. 14, Lasers D Lv. 11
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 25, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 25

Attackers Commander Bonus: +50%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +50%

411
-337
330
-292
  vs
351
-351
?
Report: # 2/39 ~ loc: 692, 2604  
5/15   21:47 ~ GST: 05/16 03:47 ~ type: conquer
Older reports (7+ days ago) are not shown.
Eric Winsor (Gollwin Academy), on the left, attacked you, your commander got 671 XP
Attackers Tech: Helix Mountings Lv. 15, Side Winder Lv. 15, Cerebral Interface Lv. 12, Lasers D Lv. 10
Defenders Tech: Reinforced Grating Lv. 25, Charged Plasma Blast Lv. 25

Attackers Commander Bonus: +60%
Defenders Commander Bonus: +50%

It doesn't cut and paste as cool for me as it does for iggy.  All told I got 1111 XP and I got more on the fight I lost to iggy than he got for winning.  Interesting.




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