 April 3, 2010 - 9:35pm | Anthropologist discover a skull and partial skeleton that constitutes a new branch of the human evolutionary tree. A flurry of papers results and the diagram of the tree is re-written and every thing eventually is forgotten. Centuries latter humanity leaves its home system and winds up in the Frontier. One fine day a promising grad student notices that yazirian skulls are virtually identical to a long ago discovery, austrolofangicus, and comes up with a theory that yazirians somehow visited earth long ago- since none of the bones from the hands or feet were discovered no one realized just how radically different they were from any other ape. Their wings have no bones so those are not preserved in the fossil record either. so now where do you go with this for an adventure? a sort of 2001 A Space Odessy sort of thing? Frontier races bring fire to the primitive proto humans? or have modern Frontier races (the core 4) have somehow travelled back to earth but also the sathar have as well (maybe a SF take on Star Trek First Contact?) dralasites will not be in the fossil record either. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 April 4, 2010 - 9:31am | I have entertained the idea of a SF adventure where the PCs "visit" a planet of less advanced humans. Perhaps a lost colony started by the crew of a derelict exploration craft that pulled a 'gilligans island'. I had two ideas about this. One being that the culture found would be iron age and have developed multiple cultures with a pantheon of various gods. Perhaps some ancient relics left over from the original crew are of great mystical focus of the culture and the PCs have similar ones. The second thought was a modern age setting with the beginnings of a space program, but not any more advanced than the US at the turn of the century. However, this world have a predominant belief that the gods had sewn life on this planet by visiting it eons ago and then leaving them to their own development. There is a prophesy of their return. Perhaps spice it up with a few cults who view simian species as demon spawn. That would present a paradox for party with yazirians. |
 April 4, 2010 - 11:08am | Now thinking about it, the Sathar wouldn't leave behind a much of fossil trace either. Although an idea for an adventure like this would have more than just PC's running around these lost colonies. They'd be running a fowl some that would kill to keep the truth silenced. Or might even land in a Planet of the Apes scenario, or maybe more like a Planet of the Yazirians. I can almost hear some PC saying it now, "Get your filthy paws off of me you damn dirty yazirian!" In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
 April 4, 2010 - 12:16pm | Sounds like something you would work with Beowulf's Lost Worlds, New Frontiers adventrue on the starfrontiers.org site. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
April 4, 2010 - 12:47pm | I have entertained the idea of a SF adventure where the PCs "visit" a planet of less advanced humans. Perhaps a lost colony started by the crew of a derelict exploration craft that pulled a 'gilligans island'. I had two ideas about this. One being that the culture found would be iron age and have developed multiple cultures with a pantheon of various gods. Perhaps some ancient relics left over from the original crew are of great mystical focus of the culture and the PCs have similar ones. There is a possibility with that but first I should say I'm somewhat against the GM fiat of you've crashed and need a new dilithium matrix resequencer if you can find one on this primitive planet otherwise you will never leave. None the less the artifacts are just what the PCs need to do/fix something to succeed with the campaign. Naturally the abos wont let them touch the sacred relic. Also based off yours and everyone else's comments- if its not earth but other lost colonies then it fits with my Frontier in flames Idea (BSG meets SF) rag tag fleet of UPF, Royal Marine, mega corp, privateers, pirates and merchent ships fleeing Sathar spawned genocide of the Frontier seeking a new home where the worms cant find them from which to start over. Along the way they happen upon a planet that was Gilliganed by a exploration ship from the Rim but that ship left the Rim long before the Frontier was contacted. They've managed to survive and build a modern industrial society and are on the verge of building their first Void capable ship with plans to contact the Rim (which has been burned and occupied by the worms) Can the PCs convince them not to go back? This would be a great world to start rebuilding on but if this community of ifshnits, Humma, and osaka do try to go back or send a subspace message they will likely lead the worms to this world. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
April 5, 2010 - 2:14pm | It all sounds good to me. My thought on the "mystical relics" that the party members had was more along the lines of causing tension amount the populace. They have the tools of the gods, thus might they be the gods themselves? Or perhaps servants of the gods sent back to assess the progress of these forgotten children? And as Sargon had mentioned, perhaps there are those (Religious Leaders) who will go to great and terrible lengths to prevent the loss of their power and prestige in that society. |
 April 12, 2010 - 8:53pm | I would love to make this a giant Red Herring. The evidence of Yazirian visitation to early Earth is purely coincidental and completely without any signifigance to current SF timeline. However, as these things have a tendancy to do, somebody blows it out of proportion and tries to work it for their own purposes. The tangled web of truths, lies and outright crackpot conjecture that could spawn from this could lead to a wonderful set of adventures. Did SF Man originate in this area of space as a slave race brought by the Yaz? Does this mean that Earth humans are evolved from Yaz? The fun you could have could go on and on. -Eli |
April 13, 2010 - 5:00pm | I love red herrings! Though if I was doing that, I'd be sure to leave one little sliver of potential evidence that cannot be explained away. Just enough to keep the thought in their minds..."is it, or isn't it?" Let them stew on it it until their eyes buldge. But then, I'm evil like that. |
April 13, 2010 - 6:59pm | Yeow, NIce Comsic Emu! and Inigo! I like it. It sort of reminds me of this article from the Frontier News Network http://majestic-worlds.com/fnn/history/sathar-peaceful-race.html that portrayed the sathar as a peaceful race preyed upon by the vicious and aggressive UPF Great potential for spinning lies, deception and doubt. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 May 1, 2010 - 10:29pm | What is this "earth" you speak of?  From the Alpha Dawn Basic book, inside front cover: "Near the center of a great spiral galaxy, where stars
are much closer together than Earth's sun and its
neighbors, a Human race developed. They were not
identical to the Humans of Earth, but they were not
very different, either." In terms of the "canon" Frontiers setting, does anyone know where the human homeworld is? I looked through the material but can't find a definitive answer. Not to discredit this discussion though, "canon" or otherwise, it is interesting. ~ Rich berentiu@gmail.com |
May 2, 2010 - 6:08am | What is this "earth" you speak of? From the Alpha Dawn Basic book, inside front cover: "Near the center of a great spiral galaxy, where stars
are much closer together than Earth's sun and its
neighbors, a Human race developed. They were not
identical to the Humans of Earth, but they were not
very different, either." In terms of the "canon" Frontiers setting, does anyone know where the human homeworld is? I looked through the material but can't find a definitive answer. Not to discredit this discussion though, "canon" or otherwise, it is interesting. supposing that the "great spiral galaxy" is the milky way and we desired to establish the location of earth in relation to the Frontier what sort of distance would we want to have in light years between the two? Would we want serious distance? 90 degrees around the rim of the galazy or 180 degrees? Anyone know what the diameter of the milky way is off hand? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
May 2, 2010 - 6:10am |
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 May 2, 2010 - 3:41pm | I placed the Frontier in the Milky Way in Celestia because placing it in another galaxy had problems. Celestia is not accurate for coordinate angles with distances large enough to be in another galaxy. when I put the frontier in Andromeda is spanned half the galaxy. The Frontier is 22000 light years from Sol. Here's a shot. -iggy |
 May 3, 2010 - 1:22pm | In terms of the "canon" Frontiers setting, does anyone know where the human homeworld is? I looked through the material but can't find a definitive answer. It seems to me to be Gollywog. It has the largest human concentration and a long-lived imperial government in place. The age of the imperial government suggests a pre-Frontier origin.View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
May 3, 2010 - 9:18pm | In terms of the "canon" Frontiers setting, does anyone know where the human homeworld is? I looked through the material but can't find a definitive answer. It seems to me to be Gollywog. It has the largest human concentration and a long-lived imperial government in place. The age of the imperial government suggests a pre-Frontier origin.I think the Zebs timeline suggest that Clarion was colonized after humans first arrived in the Frontier and if Zeb's says it you have to beleive it! I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
May 4, 2010 - 1:33pm | Ah, yes, that says that White Light was discovered in 60 p.f. I still have yet to find any foundation for the complaints about Zeb's timeline, so it seems canon enough to me. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
