Have we dealt with the space cowboys before?

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jedion357
May 30, 2013 - 9:07pm
having a small issue at 1244,1280 and my closes SY is over a day away. If anyone had a SY that would be their sooner that'd be nice.

Just sent a note to ask what's up.

Edit:
I'm likely to be tied up all day tomarrow- work asked be to pull an 11-12 hour day and doing moves from the smart phone is a pain.
I'll look for an answer in the morning but the rest of the day could be tough.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!
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iggy
May 30, 2013 - 10:28pm
I have nothing close.  It would take me about a day and a half to get a fleet of juggernauts there.  I started my fleet of juggernaughts from the last dust up moving toward a SY so that I can put them in position to deploy.  There are 640 in this fleet and I have a few hundred stationed at other SYs that I can combine together with my top commander into a fleet of 840 to hit him with.

I remember the name Drew Carver from a conflict before and Space Cowboys is ringing a bell.

BTW, everyone give me a copy paste of your View-Sorted window and I will make a map of all of our stations again.  This time I will have it distinguish between not just player but also RS, SY, Factories, and other.
-iggy

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jedion357
May 31, 2013 - 3:34am
Alright it was late and night and I miss read the times the SY is 1 day 15 hours out and I now have a fleet of 325 collossi and 235 swingers on route with best commander arriving in 19 hours

and a 1000 ships in the cue building

I've been building up the neglected tech for ships I didn't use to build up my Power level but it may be time to get back to just the tech for ships I do you and the attack defense for my SY
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TerlObar
May 31, 2013 - 6:29am
My nearest shipyard is more than a day away (on my screen I can never see more that the first time period so I don't know more than that).

I can have a fleet of 340 Colossi and 300 swingers there in under 18 hours if you want me to hit him.  (6 star commander level 25 tech all around).  I started it in route.  Let me know if you want me to call them off.
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iggy
May 31, 2013 - 7:15am
My fleet of juggernauts will be ready to deploy at 4:30pm Eastern time.  The time to get there will be 1d 9h 17m.  Let me know if you want them deployed.

BTW, I reclaimed the Omega Crew at 424,2258 if you need it.
-iggy

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jedion357
May 31, 2013 - 12:15pm
I cant load face book or conquest on my phone today and have another 7 hours at work would one of you mind taking a peak to see if my station is still there and send a polite message asking drew to move on?
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
May 31, 2013 - 12:26pm
Alright, I just sent him a second attempt at diplomacy, and informed him that there were fleets and sy in route and that if he did not respond by the time the sy got there i planned on recycling his stations. I was about to involve his alliance leader and discovered that he is tye alliance leader. Oh well.
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iggy
May 31, 2013 - 3:21pm
840 juggernauts are on there way with my +65% commander.   They will arrive on Sunday morning at 3:30am eastern time.
-iggy

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TerlObar
May 31, 2013 - 4:06pm
And my fleet will hit his shipyard just before 1:30 MDT tomorrow (saturday) unless I get called off before I go to bed tonight.
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jedion357
May 31, 2013 - 4:22pm
He's still hasn't answered either attempt at diplomacy so i send one more with a pointed comment that his stations are already targeted unless he calls off the hit.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 2:39am
Thank You Tom,
I just woke up to your's and my fleet sitting there and Drew's SY was missing.

His RS tech is 22 and 21
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 2:49am
Just poking around

Space Cowboys U.
Bry Rob RS and fleet sitting on a Llamda class energy at 1256,1302

wonder if I need to build some probes now?
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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 5:33am
I'm guessing that we need to be on alert for a few days to see if Drew is interested in striking back.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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TerlObar
June 1, 2013 - 6:00am
His SY techs were both at 20.
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iggy
June 1, 2013 - 6:56am
The reinforcements are coming.  There is a theta star near buy that is unoccupied that I can establish a base on and get a presence in this area started.   This is way far out for my fleets.
-iggy

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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 8:39am
I have more RS than SY but I plan to rectify that
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iggy
June 1, 2013 - 11:26am
I think I found Drew Carver's favorite piece of property.  His stronghold seems to be here, 1132,1491.  I am not advocating an attack but this is a place to monitor.
-iggy

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iggy
June 1, 2013 - 11:32am
Drew took your Omega Yellow again.  I see you have a fleet there.  Shall I target his fleet or his SY?  I get the feeling this guy is not going to talk he will just keep punching until he is unconcious.
-iggy

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TerlObar
June 1, 2013 - 12:20pm
shipyard first, then ships, then station.  His ships are probably set to defend so attacking either of the stations will actually hit them first.  My fleet was 5.5 hours away hunting but I've sent it back attacking the shipyard it its still there when I arrive.

BTW IIRC this is the guy we got in a fight with over my Omega crew world a while back.  He'll happily duke it out with us as long as we want and with no hard feelings I believe.

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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 5:09pm
target the fleet I've sent a response to three rather aggressive messages from him, he feels we were rather quick to respond and is threatening an expansion of hostilities to see what other properties he might like to camp on. (my RS will take 5 days to get there anyway)

since he's talking I'm, trying to give diplomacy a chance.

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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 5:13pm
message 1:You might be surprised to learn I do spend 24 hour periods away from game. I will repay your outrageous attacks.

message 2:To enlighten you I was just hopping those stations. I wouldn't have stayed. You have now made me want to stay. We'll see how long I decide to remain. I don't normally sully my few RSs with such low level HVTs.

message 3: Your efforts to re-take are futile. Perhaps if you ask nicely. n the other hand, maybe I'll start looking for other stations you have too.

my response: I'm finding it hard to understand how my behavior is outrageous. Leeching is considered a rather poor behavior and I don't see how I could interpret the presence of two stations on a property as anything other than that especially since a SY is the means by which power is projected in this game. Alliances like the Necroes are infamous for just moving in in similar fashion under the excuse "exigencies of war" and you are quite correct that we did react quickly in an aggressive manor but with the likes of some of the assholes in this game I would not think you'd be that surprised by our reaction. We've seen this sort of thing time and again and if you had simply sent a message that you knew you were imposing and that you'd would be moving one our reaction would have been different. In fact we would have opened lines of communication with you and since I was giving away similar properties I would not have minded a temporary imposition. However in light of past testing by some of the afore mentioned butt holes we did react swiftly. I'm rather curious because non of my previous messages were all that aggressive and our actions are rather in keeping with time honored traditions for dealing with perceived leeches that you have postured in a very aggressive manor. Should i assume that contrary to your statement that the stations were just moving through that your intent was just to provoke?
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jedion357
June 1, 2013 - 5:28pm
iggy wrote:
I think I found Drew Carver's favorite piece of property.  His stronghold seems to be here, 1132,1491.  I am not advocating an attack but this is a place to monitor.


Well that is certainly a target rich environment but I also think that its the equiv of poking the hornet's nest. Not that I'm above poking a hornet's nest because I would.
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TerlObar
June 1, 2013 - 7:37pm
Well, his SY is gone since I didn't see the call off message until after I hit him.  I'm pulling my ships back to my station ~19 hours away.  BTW his ships are 25/25 on his Colussus and 20/20 on his swingers.

I'm more than happy to stand down if he will but if he wants to keep it up we can do that as well.
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iggy
June 1, 2013 - 8:31pm
My ships are still coming.  However I am not targeting anything.  I will put them next to Jedion's fleet with defend turned on.  I think that non-agression is the right next move.  If I am not needed I will move on to one of the Theta stars I see open around here.  However, I am not sure I want to start building this far out.
-iggy

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TerlObar
June 1, 2013 - 8:52pm
I've got a holding ship on a theta a little to the south (1291,1460) and am sending one of my free shipyards there (28 hours out) to stage from if necessary and I'll eventually build another station on it.  I'm already spread out all over the map and this area is in a gap zone I was planning on moving into anyway.
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TerlObar
June 1, 2013 - 8:59pm
I just found an unoccupied gamma star at (1030,1389). I'm moving a fleet and SY to it right now.  SY is a day away though.  Debating purning platinum to get a ship there, complete current construction and build a resource station.  But I'll probably wait until morning and see if anyone else grabs it out from under me.
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iggy
June 2, 2013 - 12:02am
I diverted to the theta star just North of your omega yellow, (1235,1234).  I'll hold here where I am close but out of sight.  This way we can appear non-threatening and still be ready to respond.

TerlObar, I have a build ready and am 24 points away from a second build on top of that.  I split one of the juggernauts off from the fleet and sent it down to the gamma star.  It should show up at about 6:15am.  Your fleet is there now.  Two ships under different names looks like more of a claim.  If there is a need to press for the gamma I can have the other 839 juggernauts there in about 7 hours, just call if you want back up and jedion doesn't need me.  It's more logical for me to build a SY first to establish a foothold in these parts.
-iggy

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jedion357
June 2, 2013 - 3:54am
Wow this guy is a piece of work:


Tom I don't desire the property. I will not allow you to have it for the time being as punishment for this insult. I wouldn't call it a priority for me, but it will become one as you take more of my time clearing it. I'm keeping it for the next 48 hours. After that time you may have it back. You may move your assets back to the area. If I'm attacked again, Ill clear any of your groups assets and begin hitting you at other locations. Provided you meet these terms Ill continue moving my assets by Monday evening.

since the RS will take 5 days to get there I answered "agreed"

@ Tom watch for someone else showing up there and claiming that their station had been attacked and was  simply rebuilding- I went throught that about two months ago.

Can anyone explain to me how we insulted this guy? I'm baffled. because my 3 attempts at diplomacy did not strike an aggressive or rude tone except that the 3rd attempt was unapplolgetic about our intent to hold the property and that his stations were targeted.
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TerlObar
June 2, 2013 - 6:23am
jedion357 wrote:
@ Tom watch for someone else showing up there and claiming that their station had been attacked and was  simply rebuilding- I went throught that about two months ago.
  I definitely thought of that.  I expect there to be a fight for it.  I've snapped a screenshot with names, dates, and times just in case.

I have a free station build slot and I'm 3 hours away at this point in having my current construction complete.  Once it's done, I'm building a RS station.  And I've got a SY en route (13-14 hours out).  If anyone comes along I'll deal with it.

jedion357 wrote:

Can anyone explain to me how we insulted this guy? I'm baffled. because my 3 attempts at diplomacy did not strike an aggressive or rude tone except that the 3rd attempt was unapplolgetic about our intent to hold the property and that his stations were targeted.
Some people just want to be insulted.  I guess he figured we jumped a little fast and expected responses to be a bit more lethargic.
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iggy
June 2, 2013 - 8:25am
From the looks of their HQ star they are in this game to fight.  However from the actions this time and last time they, or at least Drew has a complex about appearing as an aggressor so he feins being passive and innocent.  He will try this again when we have a property he wants.
-iggy

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jedion357
June 2, 2013 - 8:49am
iggy wrote:
From the looks of their HQ star they are in this game to fight.  However from the actions this time and last time they, or at least Drew has a complex about appearing as an aggressor so he feins being passive and innocent.  He will try this again when we have a property he wants.
Note to self: stockpile j cores and tech for next time. Fact is that in a fight they have more members than us and simple numbers means we'll get handled roughly so do we slow down our response, accept being pushed around or fight back regardless of the toll it takes? Also I find it interesting that his tech is across the board higher than mine and yet his power level is in the mid 20k. Part of me wonders if that isnt by accident. Also its evident to me that he burned platnum to get a RS and SY backthere so fast on a insult/provocation he actually started.
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