Paper Standies and model

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jedion357
April 6, 2009 - 11:49am
Here's a link for some free paper standies and an interesting paper model of a scout/ fighter craft
look for the free samples button

Link 1
Link 2
and some alien terrain:
Link 3 look around the site you'll find some other free samples but not for every listing they have and some free samples were only just instructions- no actual model.

enjoy
Jedion
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!
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w00t (not verified)
April 6, 2009 - 12:38pm
I like the models. Very detailed and busy. :-)

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Sargonarhes
April 6, 2009 - 7:01pm
Those have been around for some time now. I believe the Miniature Pages actually has a thread for those and topics for them. There are people creating paper terrain and models all the time for games at various scales.
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pineappleleader
April 6, 2009 - 7:48pm
Those are very nice. I have heard good things about World Works. (Not everything is for the novice builder).

When I suggested putting Paper "Standies" and Paper Vehicles in SF Man Magazine, I meant SF specific paper miniatures: The Core Four Races, Sather, etc. and SF specific vehicles, like the Explorer.

SF miniatures are somewhat hard to find and the quality varies due to age or just plain poor sculpting. I had thought that Paper miniatures would be a "doable" substitute for OOP metal miniatures of characters, etc.

I think paper would also work for simple models of vehicles, but not for KH space ship miniatures.

Unfortunately, I have no artistic talent (or computer art programs), so I could not create them. I just thought it was a way to get some low cost SF specific miniatures to play with.

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jedion357
April 6, 2009 - 8:11pm
@ pineapple: yeah I understand your point I just posted those as this was the first time I saw them.
I like to scratch build terrain but thats time consuming and...
anyhow I bet someone with some half decent artistic ability could take scans of some original artwork and then draw the back side of the person- the beauty of that is you don't have to draw the face and doing a horizontal flip of the image would give you a good outline to work with. It would certainly be a valluable addition to the SF universe.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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pineappleleader
April 6, 2009 - 10:37pm
jedion357 wrote:
@ pineapple: yeah I understand your point I just posted those as this was the first time I saw them.
I like to scratch build terrain but that's time consuming and...
anyhow I bet someone with some half decent artistic ability could take scans of some original artwork and then draw the back side of the person- the beauty of that is you don't have to draw the face and doing a horizontal flip of the image would give you a good outline to work with. It would certainly be a valuable addition to the SF universe.


I have the artistic ability of a Stone.
So Jedi who is a good victim...ahem...volunteer to do this? Innocent

@ Jedi: A number of people on the Savage Worlds Boards speak highly of World Works. At one time there were pictures of a Weird Wars II test game that took place in a Gothic mansion from World Works. It looked very impressive.

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w00t (not verified)
April 7, 2009 - 6:57am
If anyone has images they want to see in paper minis style please send them my way.

I have submitted the following paper minis to the webzine for Issue 12:
 - Assault Scout Wing
 - Sathar Capital Ship
 - Blank Capital Ships

:-)


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TerlObar
April 7, 2009 - 7:41am
Maybe these images might be useful for turning into standies.  They are the PC and Sathar chits from the KH counter sheet at 600 dpi.  If I only had an unpuched AD counter sheet I could do the same with all of those creatures and characters.
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umungus
April 7, 2009 - 9:14am
I use these paper figures for my games. They look really good in person.
I paint a bunch of pennies black and glue them to the pennies. We started calling them penny men.

http://www.rpgnow.com/index.php?cPath=4054

At least I got to scare an alien rabbit thingy......


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pineappleleader
April 7, 2009 - 11:41am
umungus wrote:
I use these paper figures for my games. They look really good in person.
I paint a bunch of pennies black and glue them to the pennies. We started calling them penny men.

http://www.rpgnow.com/index.php?cPath=4054


Arion Paper minis. Very nice general use Sci-Fi minis. I had looked at them long ago, but now they have a greater selection. Thanks for reminding me of them. I will look at them again.

What I was trying to do was get someone to make some Star Frontiers specific "standies". A Vrusk should look like a Vrusk. Wink

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w00t (not verified)
April 7, 2009 - 11:51am
Terl, you have more chits?

I'm going to do ground vehicles as well. (OK... I hope to :-P)

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pineappleleader
April 7, 2009 - 1:32pm
TerlObar wrote:
Maybe these images might be useful for turning into standies.  They are the PC and Sathar chits from the KH counter sheet at 600 dpi.  If I only had an unpuched AD counter sheet I could do the same with all of those creatures and characters.


These are really nice - good clear images. They would work nicely as counters (printed on heavy card).

They print a little large for counters - 1 15/16 inches. Traditional counters are 1 inch. I will play around with them and see if my computer will print a smaller image.

The central images are a good size for 25mm Standies. Smile

IMHO an A-Frame Standie would be easiest.

Next question: How to make the flipped blacked-out silhouette image for the back?

EDIT 1: My printer likes to print at 94% instead of 100%. Couldn't be operator head-space and timing could it? Nah!

EDIT 2: Because your image is a .png my computer/printer only prints it in one size. (Gnashing of Teeth)

EDIT 3: I inserted the .png into a Works.wps format. It turned yellow with a red outline. I made the .wps into a .pdf and it went back to black and white. I printed both - they are black and white and 1 inch square - perfect for counters. Smile

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TerlObar
April 7, 2009 - 5:39pm
I actually have them in all differnt sized resolutions.  I posted the highest resolutions ones (scanned in at 600 dpi) but I also have them at 400, 300, 200 & 100 dpi as well.  The actual size of the counters is 1/2".

@w00t I have a full scan of the KH counter sheet.  With enough patience I could reconstruct the entire AD sheet from one of my two AD rule sets (my original one, well used and worn and probably missing pieces after 25 years and the second one a set I picked up used that already had the counters punched as well) but I just don't have the time. 
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pineappleleader
April 7, 2009 - 7:33pm
TerlObar wrote:
I actually have them in all differnt sized resolutions.  I posted the highest resolutions ones (scanned in at 600 dpi) but I also have them at 400, 300, 200 & 100 dpi as well.  The actual size of the counters is 1/2".

600 dpi gave good detail and resolution. Size, not resolution was my problem. I don't have the right programs on my computer for sizing art or images. (I wouldn't know how to use them if I did.)

Since I found a way to print your images as 1 inch square (black and white) images I'm going to leave well enough alone. This is the perfect size for 25mm/28mm/30mm gaming. I usually use a ground scale of
1 inch = 5 feet (and just fake it for 2 meters). That way I can use a 1 inch grid and everything is the same relative size.

I have thought of using the Hero Clics 1 1/2 inch grid, as 1 inch is just a bit small for Clics or AT-43 miniatures, but this is an odd size for everything else, so I have not changed.

Every time I print something I am never sure what size it will print out. Embarassed

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TerlObar
April 7, 2009 - 8:15pm
Okay, I dug up an old scan from the starfontiers.com site of the AD counters.  It doesn't download directly so I had to dig around a bit to find the actual file.  It is a little skewed but not too bad.  This is a 400 dpi scan of the AD counters.  It is about 2.7 megabytes so it may take a bit to download if you have a slow connection.
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TerlObar
April 7, 2009 - 8:36pm
Is this the kind of thing you are looking for.  It took me about 20 minutes (I started right after my last post).  This is a dralasite paper character.  It should print out 3" tall and 1" wide.  If folded on the lines the little tent should be 1" tall and 1" wide with a 1/2" base.
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jedion357
April 8, 2009 - 7:50am
I have only very slightly more artistic ability in the drawing area than pineapple so I'm not a good candidate for this sort of thing and I do like the dral paper standy by the way.

though I suppose I could produce a standie miniature by photographing a front and back of a painted mini in my collection from dead on with a white background?
That sort of photo could also be manipulated and used to create a line drawing as well I suppose?


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Ascent
April 8, 2009 - 9:55am
I am working on some character standees. I am also working on a hovercar and planning a hoverbike standee. All in the fashion of those in jedion's links. Though I will be improving upon the car and bike designs to be more attractive and less complicated. They will include instructions on how to put them together and tips on how to do it without ruining them.
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jedion357
April 8, 2009 - 10:10am
Ascent wrote:
I am working on some character standees. I am also working on a hovercar and planning a hoverbike standee. All in the fashion of those in jedion's links. Though I will be improving upon the car and bike designs to be more attractive and less complicated. They will include instructions on how to put them together and tips on how to do it without ruining them.


Just curious, are you refering to paper models or flat standies?
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Ascent
April 8, 2009 - 10:16am
Paper models, I guess. They intrigued me, and I saw all the mistakes made in those models, so I felt compelled to challenge myself.

The characters right now are planned for standees (I've sketched over 20), though I'm brewing an idea for 3-D character models that will be easy and attractive.

All in the 28mm scale.
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April 8, 2009 - 10:27am
I also just had an idea to do the weapons and gear separate. You just glue or split them onto your character, allowing players to design their character.

I'm thinking I might do both standees and models for characters, as some may not want to deal with the 3-D modeling no matter how easy it is.
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jedion357
April 8, 2009 - 10:36am
Ascent wrote:

I'm thinking I might do both standees and models for characters, as some may not want to deal with the 3-D modeling no matter how easy it is.

Most likely a very good ideaWink
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pineappleleader
April 8, 2009 - 11:31am
TerlObar wrote:
Is this the kind of thing you are looking for.  It took me about 20 minutes (I started right after my last post).  This is a dralasite paper character.  It should print out 3" tall and 1" wide.  If folded on the lines the little tent should be 1" tall and 1" wide with a 1/2" base.

Basically. It looks very nice. The "Black" silhouette is really well done. It prints 2 x 2 inches (when folded) on my computer (a little too big). It needs tabs along both bottom edges, so it can be folded like an a-Frame; or leave them sticking out and use one of PIG's mini bases. I really like them - gives the mini some weight.

If you go to PIG ( http://www.pigames.net/store/default.php?cPath=27 ) and look at their Disposable Heroes paper minis you will get an idea of the format I am looking for.

A really fine effort. I wish I could do that. Smile

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pineappleleader
April 8, 2009 - 11:33am
Ascent wrote:
I am working on some character standees. I am also working on a hovercar and planning a hoverbike standee. All in the fashion of those in jedion's links. Though I will be improving upon the car and bike designs to be more attractive and less complicated. They will include instructions on how to put them together and tips on how to do it without ruining them.

Sounds Great. I can't wait to see them.

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w00t (not verified)
April 8, 2009 - 12:51pm
(suggestion)
You could cut a slot in the hand of the mini, then insert the weapon.

Hot swappable!

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Ascent
April 8, 2009 - 1:07pm
w00t wrote:
(suggestion)
You could cut a slot in the hand of the mini, then insert the weapon.

Hot swappable!

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That's actually what I meant by "split". However, "slotted" would be a more accurate term.
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April 8, 2009 - 5:32pm
pineappleleader wrote:
It prints 2 x 2 inches (when folded) on my computer (a little too big). It needs tabs along both bottom edges, so it can be folded like an a-Frame; or leave them sticking out and use one of PIG's mini bases. I really like them - gives the mini some weight.

However you're printing it seems to have overridden the values I gave the image.  It was supposed to be 3" long by 1" wide unfolded.  The blank areas below and above the lines were supposed to be the tabs so that when folded you'd get a 1" high, 1" wide and 1/2" thick little guy.  I should have put a border around the entire thing. I'm not sure what happened but it looks like your computer printed it out double size.  Oh well.
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April 8, 2009 - 7:40pm
TerlObar wrote:
However you're printing it seems to have overridden the values I gave the image.  It was supposed to be 3" long by 1" wide unfolded.  The blank areas below and above the lines were supposed to be the tabs so that when folded you'd get a 1" high, 1" wide and 1/2" thick little guy.  I should have put a border around the entire thing. I'm not sure what happened but it looks like your computer printed it out double size.  Oh well.

I've done everything I can think of (which is not much) to get it to print the right size - No Go. As you say "Oh well".

Still I think Standies are too good an idea to drop. I hope someone else will pick it up and run with it.

Ascent sounds promising.

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Ascent
April 12, 2009 - 9:45am
Something came up, so I'm going to focus only on character standees this month. I'll work on the 3-D paper models in my spare time when I'm done with the standees.
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