Not sure I like the biblical references

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CleanCutRogue
November 29, 2008 - 12:41pm
Refer to: More Alien Races.

Although I am not offended by biblical references in fictional works, I know some folks are.  I have in the past received emails regarding questionable subject matter.  The races are of some interest though, and we might be able to consider some of these.  It's always good to see this much detail and thought put into a race, ya know?  But I'd not want to put - in core rules or in the core setting - too much detail on a religion.  Sketchy details, yes, no problem.  But these races are better suited to a fully-fleshed out setting where religion plays a more direct role and some folks wouldn't want to play in that setting because it would offend them.

This is just an opinion, and I'm totally fine being overruled by popular demand - so voice up?
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Will's picture
Will
November 29, 2008 - 12:45pm

Oh, that.

We can always edit these to suit, no probs.

Or not use them at all, these are only suggestions to get the creative juices flowing.

Up to y'all. :D 

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Gilbert
November 29, 2008 - 1:52pm
  Maybe just setup a hierarchy so that if it is a big political government influence or the government. Something like the Yazarin clans would work, enough there to give an idea. It is best to avoid indepth details, good idea let the players put what they want in there. Probly put in that the race is little or fanatical religious overtones, maybe, and leave it there. Put in"choose religion if you want one."

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Will
November 30, 2008 - 7:08pm

Oh, I agree that all the campaign-specific info has to be culled.

But, I figured the basic game info could still be useful. 

"You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so."


—Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation

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Grendel_T_Troll
December 3, 2008 - 12:54am
Considering that my campaign proposal has a lot of religious references - especially the NOPL (New Order of the Promised Land) incursions - I understand how touchy it can be. 

Sometimes you can't get away from it.  My SFRPG universes are far from athiestic - even though I am influenced by the SF authors from the 30's through the 60's.  Real life tells me that people are willing to believe anything - if packaged properly.

Sorry for being cynical, but I guess what I am trying to say is this: removing all religion from a game setting will make it feel less real.
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CleanCutRogue
December 3, 2008 - 8:59am
Grendel_T_Troll wrote:
Considering that my campaign proposal has a lot of religious references - especially the NOPL (New Order of the Promised Land) incursions - I understand how touchy it can be.

Sometimes you can't get away from it. My SFRPG universes are far from athiestic - even though I am influenced by the SF authors from the 30's through the 60's. Real life tells me that people are willing to believe anything - if packaged properly.

Sorry for being cynical, but I guess what I am trying to say is this: removing all religion from a game setting will make it feel less real.
That's not synical.... I agree that individual settings may wish to explore religion in great depth!  It should in fact have some moral play (the richest stories do)... and if your setting includes the humans of Earth that religion might even be one of Earth's current religions.  But the core setting should be free of any religios references specific to an existing Earth religion.  I don't mind if the Geomores of Chardra IV have a Taoism-like philosophy while the Humans of Tritus worship a sun god... that's not going to offend people if it's here and there but not elaborated on... right?  But we shouldn't use terms like angel, demon, nephilem, God with a capital "G" etc. in the core setting if it would detract some people from the great game... 

If I'm overthinking, I'm sorry.  I actually got email before asking me to curb down adult content - or frightening imagery - in the starfrontiersman...  One member of this site actually had me make a remake of one of the PDFs and remove a couple of the pictures in it becaue it offended them.  But if you make a setting book and fill it with all kinds of stuff you want, I'll personally buy it from lulu, may even play games in the setting, and enjoy the heck out of it :-)
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SmootRK
December 3, 2008 - 9:09am
I think mention of religion in the material can be ok, so long as it is rather vague.  For instance, "Yazirians of system X, being very conservatively religious, tend to shun outsiders who do not share their faith.  There are even extreme elements within these sects that believe violence against outsiders can be justified in certain circumstances".

Notice, there is little real detail given, while giving the Ref room to expand on the detail.  What exactly do they worship?... 'church' organization?... how is worship done?... tennets?  all left intensionally blank, while giving a framework to build upon.
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CleanCutRogue
December 3, 2008 - 10:04am
SmootRK wrote:
I think mention of religion in the material can be ok, so long as it is rather vague.  For instance, "Yazirians of system X, being very conservatively religious, tend to shun outsiders who do not share their faith.  There are even extreme elements within these sects that believe violence against outsiders can be justified in certain circumstances".

Notice, there is little real detail given, while giving the Ref room to expand on the detail.  What exactly do they worship?... 'church' organization?... how is worship done?... tennets?  all left intensionally blank, while giving a framework to build upon.
Exactly what I was saying :-)  Perfect.
3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

-top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian, ShadowShack